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Mesmer in Need · Jul 18, 2006, 05:05 PM // 17:05

When i was makeing my pvp warrior, i saw this armour as an option, but it wasnt highlighted so i couldent use it. I know it has AL 100 but it has -20hp if you dont have strength 13. Where do i get this? Fow?

Former Ruling · Jul 18, 2006, 05:07 PM // 17:07

Its -20AL, not hp, if you don't have 13 str.

Its Faction Only armor, you have to buy factions to use it.

Mesmer in Need · Jul 18, 2006, 05:08 PM // 17:08

oh. well im getting factions. Where do i get it there?

Former Ruling · Jul 18, 2006, 05:14 PM // 17:14

Its just one of the armor choices at any armor crafter...

Mesmer in Need · Jul 18, 2006, 05:15 PM // 17:15

o thanks

Former Ruling · Jul 18, 2006, 05:21 PM // 17:21

Just to finish up this debate...Sentinals isn't very good or very popular. It has the best base armor in the game sure...but noone runs 13 str. And if you don't have 13str - the armor is useless (like I said, it losses 20 AL, not 20 hp..making it base 80 armor with no mods, making it the worst warrior armor if you dont have 13 str)

Ondo · Jul 19, 2006, 12:52 AM // 00:52

I have a hammer warrior with sentinals. She wore it from start to finish and is now making her way through chapter 1. I also have a sword/axe warrior that uses this armor for farming and running.

Carth` · Jul 19, 2006, 01:21 AM // 01:21

If you use 13 strength, is it the best armour? Just out of interest, say for a second set.

Ondo · Jul 19, 2006, 02:59 AM // 02:59

I wouldn't say there is a "best" armor.
I select my armor based on my planned build for the character. My hammer's build is based mainly on strength skills, therefore my strength attribute is at 16. Hence I will always meet the req. My other warrior requires more energy therefore she wears glads. But when she's dedicated to running all points are put into tactics and strength so I feel sentinals is better there.
Dragon's - +10AL from basic
Glads - +7 energy
Knights - Received physical damage -3
Beserker's - +35 health
Legionnaire's - +10 AL in stance
Sentinals - +20 AL from Basic with 13+ strength

Aisius · Jul 19, 2006, 05:12 AM // 05:12

I use sentinels for running and hammer build, both of which I have high strength to play.

Normally for hammer I keep my att's in my primary profession and run with grenth's balance or a non attribute secondary profession skill.

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Originally Posted by Carth`

If you use 13 strength, is it the best armour? Just out of interest, say for a second set.

I would think it'd have to be. I mean if you were to go with a couple of toons with varying proffessions to Isle of the nameless and hit on the 80 target dummy then hit on the 100 AL target dummy the reduction in damage is the benifet you'll get from sentinels.

Caelus The Fallen · Jul 19, 2006, 01:13 PM // 13:13

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Originally Posted by Ondo

I wouldn't say there is a "best" armor.
Dragon's - +10AL from basic
Sentinals - +20 AL from Basic with 13+ strength

Dragon's - +10AL (vs elements) from basic
Sentinals - +20 AL (vs elements) from Basic with 13+ strength

would be more accurate, since the +Physical bonus is reduced by the same amount (ie. basic 80+20 physical; Dragons 90+10 physical). Neither of the sets is any more effective against Physical damage than the Basic armour set.

Deacon Roswell · Jul 19, 2006, 01:20 PM // 13:20

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Originally Posted by Caelus The Fallen

Dragon's - +10AL (vs elements) from basic
Sentinals - +20 AL (vs elements) from Basic with 13+ strength

Since when? I bought my armor and it was +20AL, and after the update all the warrior armor bonuses were changed to "vs physical damage" right? I'll have to go back and look at my armor now because I'm pretty sure it's not +20AL vs elements as stated above.

Farrell-Zander · Jul 19, 2006, 01:27 PM // 13:27

After the new update I'll have to trash my old Knight boots and replace them with sentinel's

I think sentinel's is the best armor if you have 13 Strength which I always have while running. Good luck getting your armor

boxterduke · Jul 19, 2006, 01:39 PM // 13:39

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Originally Posted by Former Ruling

Just to finish up this debate...Sentinals isn't very good or very popular. It has the best base armor in the game sure...but noone runs 13 str. And if you don't have 13str - the armor is useless (like I said, it losses 20 AL, not 20 hp..making it base 80 armor with no mods, making it the worst warrior armor if you dont have 13 str)

Actually I know a lot of people that have the armor (including myself) and we run at 13 strength and this armor is great.
Its takes so much abuse its not even funny.

Now that most people have at least 2 sets of armor then I would say have one sentinel and one gladiator.

Jetdoc · Jul 19, 2006, 01:48 PM // 13:48

I've done a comparison of the armors before in a few threads, but here it is again...

ALL Warrior armor provides a base 100 AL versus physical and 80AL versus elemental. So, if you focus on the differences after that...

Chainmail - no bonus
Dragon/Plate - +10AL vs Elemental
Sentinels - +20AL vs Elemental (but need 13 strength)
Legionnaire - +10AL vs Elemental, +10AL vs Physical (only in a stance)
Knights - -3 Damage Reduction vs Physical
Berserker - +35 Health
Gladiator - +7 Energy

A quick analysis:

If you're farming trolls/other physicals, Knights seems the way to go.
If you're a strength-based tank, Sentinel is the way to go.
If you're a tactics-based tank/runner, Legionnaire is the way to go.
If you want PvP armor, either Gladiator's or Berserker (for spike protection) is the way to go.
If you want generic armor that's pretty good for all occassions, Dragon/Plate is the way to go.

With the update, I would say that all armor types now have their benefits. If you're too lazy (or don't have the inventory space/cash) to switch armors, Dragon/Plate is the best overall choice.

Jul 18, 2006, 05:05 PM // 17:05	#1
Mesmer in Need Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: [ToA]	sentinal armour? When i was makeing my pvp warrior, i saw this armour as an option, but it wasnt highlighted so i couldent use it. I know it has AL 100 but it has -20hp if you dont have strength 13. Where do i get this? Fow?

Jul 18, 2006, 05:07 PM // 17:07	#2
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	Its -20AL, not hp, if you don't have 13 str. Its Faction Only armor, you have to buy factions to use it.

Jul 18, 2006, 05:08 PM // 17:08	#3
Mesmer in Need Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: [ToA]	oh. well im getting factions. Where do i get it there?

Jul 18, 2006, 05:14 PM // 17:14	#4
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	Its just one of the armor choices at any armor crafter...

Jul 18, 2006, 05:15 PM // 17:15	#5
Mesmer in Need Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: [ToA]	o thanks

Jul 18, 2006, 05:21 PM // 17:21	#6
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	Just to finish up this debate...Sentinals isn't very good or very popular. It has the best base armor in the game sure...but noone runs 13 str. And if you don't have 13str - the armor is useless (like I said, it losses 20 AL, not 20 hp..making it base 80 armor with no mods, making it the worst warrior armor if you dont have 13 str)

Jul 19, 2006, 12:52 AM // 00:52	#7
Ondo Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: USA Guild: Heavenly Shadows [milf] Profession: W/R	I have a hammer warrior with sentinals. She wore it from start to finish and is now making her way through chapter 1. I also have a sword/axe warrior that uses this armor for farming and running.

Jul 19, 2006, 01:21 AM // 01:21	#8
Carth` Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2006	If you use 13 strength, is it the best armour? Just out of interest, say for a second set.

Jul 19, 2006, 02:59 AM // 02:59	#9
Ondo Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: USA Guild: Heavenly Shadows [milf] Profession: W/R	I wouldn't say there is a "best" armor. I select my armor based on my planned build for the character. My hammer's build is based mainly on strength skills, therefore my strength attribute is at 16. Hence I will always meet the req. My other warrior requires more energy therefore she wears glads. But when she's dedicated to running all points are put into tactics and strength so I feel sentinals is better there. Dragon's - +10AL from basic Glads - +7 energy Knights - Received physical damage -3 Beserker's - +35 health Legionnaire's - +10 AL in stance Sentinals - +20 AL from Basic with 13+ strength

Jul 19, 2006, 01:27 PM // 13:27	#13
Farrell-Zander Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Switzerland	After the new update I'll have to trash my old Knight boots and replace them with sentinel's I think sentinel's is the best armor if you have 13 Strength which I always have while running. Good luck getting your armor

Jul 19, 2006, 01:48 PM // 13:48	#15
Jetdoc Hell's Protector Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: The Eyes of Texas [BEVO] Profession: D/A	I've done a comparison of the armors before in a few threads, but here it is again... ALL Warrior armor provides a base 100 AL versus physical and 80AL versus elemental. So, if you focus on the differences after that... Chainmail - no bonus Dragon/Plate - +10AL vs Elemental Sentinels - +20AL vs Elemental (but need 13 strength) Legionnaire - +10AL vs Elemental, +10AL vs Physical (only in a stance) Knights - -3 Damage Reduction vs Physical Berserker - +35 Health Gladiator - +7 Energy A quick analysis: If you're farming trolls/other physicals, Knights seems the way to go. If you're a strength-based tank, Sentinel is the way to go. If you're a tactics-based tank/runner, Legionnaire is the way to go. If you want PvP armor, either Gladiator's or Berserker (for spike protection) is the way to go. If you want generic armor that's pretty good for all occassions, Dragon/Plate is the way to go. With the update, I would say that all armor types now have their benefits. If you're too lazy (or don't have the inventory space/cash) to switch armors, Dragon/Plate is the best overall choice.